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		<title>By: vencanice nis</title>
		<link>http://www.photocrati.com/taking-wedding-pictures-that-stand-out-from-the-pack/comment-page-1/#comment-7670</link>
		<dc:creator>vencanice nis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Mar 2011 10:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea!</description>
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		<title>By: Booray Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booray Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Experience mostly.  In a dark room at ISO 800 and flash at 1/8 power you will be in the 2.8-7.0 range with your f-stop.... usually.  So, I start at 1/8 power and take a test shot, then adjust as needed.

I&#039;m not sure about the TTL question.  I don&#039;t use TTL for the off-camera flash.  The power must be changed at the unit but once you have the right power you rarely have to change it at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Experience mostly.  In a dark room at ISO 800 and flash at 1/8 power you will be in the 2.8-7.0 range with your f-stop&#8230;. usually.  So, I start at 1/8 power and take a test shot, then adjust as needed.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure about the TTL question.  I don&#8217;t use TTL for the off-camera flash.  The power must be changed at the unit but once you have the right power you rarely have to change it at all.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 13:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you know you need 1/8 or 1/4 power on the secondary flash ?. I assume you can change the power remotely ?. Why not just no TTL on it ?.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know you need 1/8 or 1/4 power on the secondary flash ?. I assume you can change the power remotely ?. Why not just no TTL on it ?.</p>
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		<title>By: Booray Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booray Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 18:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lighting is actually about 1/8 of the equation!  :)

I consult with my clients beforehand on important people that they want photographed.  I also tell them not to be shy about grabbing me and saying, &quot;Booray, go take a picture of them!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lighting is actually about 1/8 of the equation!  <img src='http://www.photocrati.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I consult with my clients beforehand on important people that they want photographed.  I also tell them not to be shy about grabbing me and saying, &#8220;Booray, go take a picture of them!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: R_Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>R_Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 15:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you figure out which groups to take pictures of?  I manage to pull of the artistic shots, but identifying the key groups can be a struggle when all of the guests are from out of town.  Lighting seems to be only half the equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you figure out which groups to take pictures of?  I manage to pull of the artistic shots, but identifying the key groups can be a struggle when all of the guests are from out of town.  Lighting seems to be only half the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Booray Perry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Booray Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 19:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if you are shooting in a room with black ceiling and black walls you are in a world of hurt.  In a case where there is nothing to bounce off you just have to make do with the on-camera strobe unless the ceiling is very high, in which case you can run your off-camera strobe up high and point it down at the floor (with or without umbrella).  It&#039;s a judgement call I would make the day of the event.  Using a second strobe in this way is just another tool, not always necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you are shooting in a room with black ceiling and black walls you are in a world of hurt.  In a case where there is nothing to bounce off you just have to make do with the on-camera strobe unless the ceiling is very high, in which case you can run your off-camera strobe up high and point it down at the floor (with or without umbrella).  It&#8217;s a judgement call I would make the day of the event.  Using a second strobe in this way is just another tool, not always necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: RealComet</title>
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		<dc:creator>RealComet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankx booray, i really find your   post helpful. i use nikon d80 with 18-70mm lens. im planning to get a fast lens say 50mm f1.8. i shoot mainly events, wedding especially. i use just my sb 800 speedlite alone bounced on the ceiling, and its great. the only problem i have with this technique is when the ceiling is very high and is painted a dull color like black that absorbs all the lightning. will using the extra speedlite as found in your post take care of this problem. thx in advance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankx booray, i really find your   post helpful. i use nikon d80 with 18-70mm lens. im planning to get a fast lens say 50mm f1.8. i shoot mainly events, wedding especially. i use just my sb 800 speedlite alone bounced on the ceiling, and its great. the only problem i have with this technique is when the ceiling is very high and is painted a dull color like black that absorbs all the lightning. will using the extra speedlite as found in your post take care of this problem. thx in advance.</p>
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		<title>By: Seb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well your picture is crisp and nice but no vibe at all...no mood just looks like two poeple dancing during the day in village hall to me...id f off yer flash and yer lights get a static 50mm lense @ 1.4 and take loads of shots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well your picture is crisp and nice but no vibe at all&#8230;no mood just looks like two poeple dancing during the day in village hall to me&#8230;id f off yer flash and yer lights get a static 50mm lense @ 1.4 and take loads of shots</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Jenner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Jenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 06:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, nothing changes much among pros. In the middle 1960s we used much the same technique, but with cumbersome strobes and huge batteries, enough to power a small village. Two huge Metz flash guns connected to a Leica, via cables. Working out exposure was a pig. Still, the results were worth the effort - a well-lit room. A sense of depth. Warmth. However, as a newspaper photographer, not suitable for all jobs. Fall-back was the big Metz and bounce - off the forehead, if necessary, for a portrait. 

Booray, that&#039;s a nice shot at the wedding. I don&#039;t go along with the idea of being creative with brides, that&#039;s the groom&#039;s job. However, it is incumbent upon the photographer to ask what she likes - how does she see herself? - and then do the job accordingly. After all, it&#039;s her day. The photographer&#039;s job is to record. For posterity. If the bride is pig-ugly - capture it. Warts and all.

I refuse weddings now. Prefer war zones. Good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, nothing changes much among pros. In the middle 1960s we used much the same technique, but with cumbersome strobes and huge batteries, enough to power a small village. Two huge Metz flash guns connected to a Leica, via cables. Working out exposure was a pig. Still, the results were worth the effort &#8211; a well-lit room. A sense of depth. Warmth. However, as a newspaper photographer, not suitable for all jobs. Fall-back was the big Metz and bounce &#8211; off the forehead, if necessary, for a portrait. </p>
<p>Booray, that&#8217;s a nice shot at the wedding. I don&#8217;t go along with the idea of being creative with brides, that&#8217;s the groom&#8217;s job. However, it is incumbent upon the photographer to ask what she likes &#8211; how does she see herself? &#8211; and then do the job accordingly. After all, it&#8217;s her day. The photographer&#8217;s job is to record. For posterity. If the bride is pig-ugly &#8211; capture it. Warts and all.</p>
<p>I refuse weddings now. Prefer war zones. Good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Vencanice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vencanice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 16:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think is a great idea...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think is a great idea&#8230;</p>
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